Vampire: The Masquerade - Krvne linije 2 Forum Teme Kritiziranje SJW Politika Cenzurirano, Zabranjeno

Vampire Maskada Bloodlines 2 SJW Cenzura

Počelo je. Ako ikad postoji bilo kakvo pitanje ili dvojba o tome je li programer odlučio duboko zaroniti u politiku identiteta, uvijek možete znati po načinu na koji zajednica reagira na kreativne dizajnerske odluke programera i načinu na koji programeri reagiraju na reakciju zajednice.

In this case, Hardsuit Labs and Paradox Interactive’s Vampir: Maškarada - Bloodlines 2 bio je naizgled objavili niotkuda, ali uzbuđenje se brzo zamijenilo strahom, a zatim pobunom nakon što je otkriveno da postoje razni elementi dizajna ljevičarske politike. The developers and moderators over the Steam forums obviously didn’t take kindly to the push back from fans and proceeded to censor topics, lock threads, and ban users that they felt were “baiting” certain topics.

Počelo je kada su se počele pojavljivati ​​teme koje su pitale "Je li to šala?" Kada su to neki fanovi otkrili Krvne linije 2 očito će imati neki crossover s 5th izdanjem Vampire: The Masquerade‘s tabletop game book from White Wolf, which features extreme-Leftist sociopolitics and identitarianism, including a character named Rudi, who is a gay, black, Muslim SJW who fights against oppressive misogynists and the patriarchy. Obviously, gamers were not keen on characters like that appearing in Vampire: The Masquerade i nazvao ga "parodijskim" karakterom. Konac se pojavio nekoliko sati poslije Krvne linije 2 je objavljen u ožujku 22nd, 2019, ali nit je bila zaključana 16 stranica i nekoliko sati kasnije.

Another user, going by the handle of Murf_This!, made a thread titled “Will it be SJW?”, asking…

“So, the first game gave you a redhead sex / blood slave and had a psychotic club owned, who you could bang by exploiting her mental illness. You had bad people, you had good people. The game had a realistic array of personalities. And it didn’t judge them based on that. You were able to influence the world to a small degree and also decided what kind of person you wanted to be.

 

“Onda imamo SJW igre kao što je Battletech, gdje se pri kreiranju karaktera može odabrati samo zamjenica, a svaka slika Avatar-androgena (pomalo muška, pomalo ženska). U međuvremenu vaša cijela posada je skup znakova različitih rasa i mentalnih bolesti, bez ikakve dubine ili stvarnog karaktera iza nje.

 

“Or Dragon Age Inquisition, that forces on you an ugly, uncouth elf, because “Not all elves have to be pretty” or some trash like that.

 

“Or Mass Effect Andromeda, that introduced ugly Asari – a race of aliens, that literally psychically manipulate you to view them as the prettiest, most attractive possible mate for you and you only.

 

“So the question is – will this game be a good one, or will it cater to like ~100-200 tublrinas on Twitter, who may or may not buy your game?”

Nekoliko sati kasnije, Murf_This! Tema teme je bila zaključana.

Whether or not Murf_This!, saw the news, but lead writer Brian Mitsoda did address the mental illness issue and you won’t be seeing any “punching down” happening in Krvne linije 2. Push Square izvijestio je da je tijekom razgovora s jednom od ljevičarskih medija Mitsoda objasnio kako bi se oni bavili "politikom" u Hrvatskoj Vampir: Maškarada - Bloodlines 2, and topics such as mental illness, saying…

"Moramo biti vrlo osjetljivi na to kako se nosimo sa stvarima kao što su duševna bolest, a to je bila briga za nas i za Paradoks, u tome kako možemo napraviti zrelu priču, ali ako učinimo bilo što, radimo domaću zadaću i osiguravamo da smo udarati i ne udarati. "

The terms “punching up” and “punching down” are strictly used in Social Justice Warrior circles. Normal human beings don’t use those terms.

What’s more is that even joking about Krvne linije 2 i duševna bolest će vam zabraniti, što je i ono što se dogodilo korisniku FOXXOF, koji je šapuo o izboru zamjenice i duševne bolesti i odmah je bio zabranjen za komentar.

Drugi su jednostavno pucali natrag na levičarski sociopolitički program koji je bio ugrađen u izmišljenu infrastrukturu Krvne linije 2, with deuxhero making a thread titled “Developers to half the population: We don’t want you to play this game”.

29 stranice kasnije i puno ismijavanja od onih koji podržavaju SJW dnevni red, i nit je bila zaključana.

Počeli su korisnici poput Purpleetea izrada niti criticizing the developers for censoring and locking the topics that dissent from the SJW agenda, writing…

- Dakle, onemogućavanje slobode govora vidim? Koliko nisko možete dobiti?

 

“You cant even speak your mind? What is this youtube-twitter♥♥♥♥♥♥♥fest? Honestly you should be ashamed of yourself. Oh you dont like what people thinking about one or another aspect of your game? Well boohoo.”

Nekoliko sati kasnije nit je potpuno izbrisana.

User Korig also made a thread, calling out the developers for the censorship, writing…

“ Threads being locked & users being banned from discussion. What an excellent way to garner hype & excitement for your game. Within an hour of a sequel being announced you immediately confirm non binary gender pronouns, you promise to tackle modern day politics & you discuss how you will “tone down sexuality as the original was a male power fantasy”. So when people complain for obvious reasons here you lock threads & ban people from commenting…top notch.

 

“I’ve never seen a game get people excited so quickly & then immediately destroy that excitement/hope. Hope you enjoy your already niche game being excluded to customers who can’t figure out what gender they are.”

Konac je bio zaključan i Korig je bio djelotvoran zabranjen pristup forumu.

It wasn’t just Korig, though, the forums saw a massive purge of threads, topics, and users who were either asking about Social Justice Warrior influences or were making it known that they didn’t support the SJW agenda.

Imajte na umu da su to teme koje su bile zaključane, a ne niti koje su izbrisane.

Korisnici su počeli neprestano pitati programere o tome zašto zabranjuju korisnike i brišu teme i zaključavaju niti. Naposljetku, korisnik Liam Neeson probijajući vukove pitao je: “Što daje? Jesam li uletio u Reseteru? ”. Liam Neeson susreo se s kratkim odgovorom moderatorice zajednice Steam Tito Shivan iz Španjolske, who explained…

"U redu. Pogledaj ga.
As Far I can see there’s.
– One deleted bait thread from a user previously warned for making similar bait threads on other ‘hot zone’ forums.
– 2 Spam topics with no content itself.
– 1 topic just linking to a Youtube video that’s already been linked in other places in the forum. So the subject is already being discussed.
i još nekoliko tema o mamcima koje su napravili korisnici s popisom prethodnih zabrana duže nego što je preporučljivo.

 

“Nothing removed out of the ordinary so you can leave the tinfoil hat at home. No Ventrue conspiracy at play. The place is ‘hot topic’ right now so it’s bringing in some regular trolls out of the woodworks at the smell of fresh blood (wink wink, nudge nudge) As it has happened on other places in the past. […]”

Shivan je ubrzo nastavio zaključavati nit iz daljnje rasprave.

Shivan doesn’t explain which threads belong to which users given that it’s tough to tell what Shivan considers a bait thread or which ones were satirically mocking the developers for focusing entirely on talking about the politics of Vampir: Maškarada - Bloodlines 2 umjesto stvarne igre. Zapravo, ne znamo ništa o samoj igri i samo o politici s lijeve strane o kojoj se igra gradi. To je bilo beskrajno parodirano od korisnika FiauraTheTankGirl u nizu pod nazivom “The Devs”, na što se rugaju ideji da je jedini razlog zbog kojeg su ljudi svirali izvornik bio konstantan, politički nabijen sadržaj.

Naravno, nit je bila zaključana.

Other threads make it difficult to tell if they’re being serious or not due to the absurdity of Leftist sociopolitical jargon. For instance, SolviteSekai made a thread titled “So, which gender pronouns will you be using?” linking to an image from VG 24/7 where the outlet championed the developers for adding multiple gendered pronouns to the game. SolviteSekai quipped… “I’m thinking it/they but I’ve also considered Vamp/Vampies”.

10 stranice kasnije i nit je bila zaključana.

Shivan made have made it seem like he only locked/deleted a handful of threads, but the bans just kept going. Noxxshroude’s thread titled “The SJW Parts” attempted to convey that they didn’t really want to play a game about LGBTQIA sociopolitical propaganda, writing…

- U redu, podržavam LGBTQI, ali mora li svaka igra to uključiti? Mislim možda staviti u romantiku potraga ili klimanje ovdje i tamo, ali 50 zamjenice? Kako je to relevantno za igru? Ovo je igra o vampirima. Jedina zabrinutost bi trebala biti što možete biti klanovi i kako se osjećate kao WoD. ”

Manje od sat vremena kasnije i nit je bila zaključana.

Others like Tova didn’t even bring up the SJW aspects. They simply wrote…

"Zanimalo me je .. onda .. Vidio se paradoks bio izdavač, Šteta što su na crnoj listi za Stellaris Fiasco."

The thread didn’t even last minutes before bila je zaključana.

What they’re referring to with the stellaris fijasko je to u kasno Svibnja 2016 Paradox Interactive je stupio na zabranu korisniku moda da bude javno dostupan stellaris jer je omogućio igračima da čine ljudske znakove samo bijelim.

Novinari igara žalili su se na mod koji ga je nazvao "rasističkim" i tako se Paradox Interactive okrenuo njihovim zahtjevima i povukao mod.

Nearly all the threads decrying the Left-wing politics or criticizing the game’s obvious Liberal-slant with the identitarianism and sociopolitical topic matter have been locked or deleted, and the users sanctioned or banned.

Međutim, jedna nit ostaje.

Korisnik Mannagen izradio je vrlo dugačak post pod nazivom “Molimo vas da razmotrite politička poruka”.

Kao što je od pisanja ovog članka, i 33 težina stranice u, nit je još živa.

Mannagen tries, to the best of his abilities, to outline that he’s Conservative and that he doesn’t mind Liberal content in his media, but he just wants a game where he can enjoy it without all the political bludgeoning going on in today’s culture war. To sum up what Mannagen wrote, the lengthy post ends with the following paragraph…

“I just want to play my bit of dark fantasy in this World of Darkness, free of all the pettiness and strife I have to deal with in the news, workplace, and public spaces of reality. I want to make my vampire how I imagine myself (or how I imagine the character I seek to play), and make choices how I elect to make them, with force or coercion of ideas that are not my own, in a political climate that is balanced/neutral by any 3rd person’s point of view (free of bias), and I want to be able to do this for hours on end. Period. Make that the game. Let’s not play this political, pandering card that appears to be all the rage now-a-days.”

Očito, Mannagena odmah napadaju liberali i ljevičari koji imaju duboko ukorijenjenu mržnju prema konzervativcima i tradicionalnim zapadnjačkim vrijednostima.

Međutim, čak i uz cenzuru na forumima, riječ se još uvijek širi i korisnici još uvijek ispuštaju crvene pilule za sve povremene. Teme se još uvijek pojavljuju od korisnika poput TYR who warned people about Cara Ellison’s ties to uzimajući Hotline Miami 2 zabranjen u Australiji, kao i da je Ellison pomogao u pisanju posramljena 2, koji je zapravo napravio svoj put na Get Woke; Idi razbiti glavni popis...

"Feministkinja / SJW-Pronoun VtMB2 pisac Cara Ellison, pisac za VtMB2, također pisac za brodolom koji je bio Dishonored 2, bio je dio bandwagon-a koji je zabranio Hotline Miami u Australiji."

Izgleda da je što više moderatori pokušavaju cenzurirati i zabraniti korisnike za izlaganje SJW dnevnog reda, više će ljudi gurnuti natrag protiv cenzure.

This is always a common tactic with a lot of Leftists and SJWs who can’t argue in favor of their own politics because they’re either contradictory, desultory, or degenerate, and therefore the only recourse they have is to censor the opposition, which is exactly what we’re seeing with people who critically put the development team’s politics and the political direction they’re taking with Vampir: Maškarada - Bloodlines 2 pod mikroskopom.